I don't mean for this to sound wrong, but I am interested in the specifics of her situation and her case.
Another brave woman steps forward.
can't see this having been mentioned already - forgive me if i missed it and it is old news.. velicia alston brings lawsuit against watchtower (irwin zalkin representing):.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8nmgrvlmvxo.
I don't mean for this to sound wrong, but I am interested in the specifics of her situation and her case.
Another brave woman steps forward.
my sister said she heard several "mis truths" or dare we say, "lies" said by the brothers on the stand during the royal commission.. 1) vin toole lied when asked about the expression "theocratic warfare".
he said he was unaware of the term.
2) terry obrien lied when asked whether witnesses are free to research the organisation or free to leave without any negative consequences.. 3) geoff jackson lied when he said that the organisation doesn't run a 'police state' and doesn't criticise those who want to leave.
(my apologies if this was already discussed somewhere else.).
i noticed that the domain www.mt2414.com was taken, and when i tested it, it was a mirror of the log in portion of the www.jw.org site, where you can look up assemblies, kingdom halls, and make either one time or recurring donations.
so i created an account there (you can use fake form information as long as it's a real email address for email verification).
so, hubby gets contacted today by one of the elders saying 2 of them want to pay us a visit and asks him when we are available.
we both had the heart drop feeling for a few minutes lol.
but he promptly, and politely, informed them that we are very busy but he will let them know when we are free.
True story. I made a deal with an elder that said something stupid to me that would be horribly embarrassing to reveal to his fellow elders. Then he had the nerve to slander me. So I called me, went off, and made him a deal.
You make sure the elders don't come to my house......and I won't talk to them about what you told me.
Deal. Done. Nobody comes by. We may even be on DNC.
http://www.people.com/article/vester-lee-flanagan-bryce-willams-the-man-who-allegedly-shot-3-people-live-tv.
people magazine: who was vester lee flanagan, the man who allegedly shot 3 people on live tv?.
born in 1973 in oakland, california, to vester and betty flanagan, he was raised as a strict jehovah's witness.
Being a homosexual black man whose world view was in part shaped by a fundamentalist religious background that is as exclusionist and judgement as JW's have to be a lethal trinity of personal complex creation.
Still.....he didn't shoot people because he was raised a JW.
Danny Hazard should stay off the internet. He does much more harm than good.
in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.
so what woke me up?
an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.
The first brick fell with blood.
I simply could not logically defend the change in policy, and I always prided myself in being able to debate the bible and doctrine very well and with dignity. I simply could not defend....even really stretching it.....why some things were "allowed" and others weren't. It began to dawn on me the people I knew or had heard of directly that "died faithful".
I wondered what they were being faithful to. Something they believed to be true no doubt, but who had taught them that was true? My logical mind kicked in and it went like this.
2) So who decided what was forbidden and not? What was the criteria for this?
3) Crickets.
4) Answers I received revolved around weak arguments of better overall health, continued growth and therfore evidence we could not have been bloodguilty, and the argument that "not that many had died", and that "cause of death really couldn't technically be traced to blood loss in most cases".
My brain went wild. I thought I could stay for the good. I didn't want to leave. Years later i knew I had to be my authentic self, or not. I decided to be authentic. My wife did too.
Blood started it all. It woke me up.
It gave me permission to research with new eyes things I had previously already held as truths.
Then.........it all falls down.
anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
Ugh. I am remorese to say that while this guy was clearly unstable in a very odd hard to understand way, that neither guns nor his former religion are clearly at fault enough to make any real case.
He was racist, and felt his actions were justified by another racist. He didn't know how to process emotion as can be seen by his employment history. I have a few threads out to JW's here in San Diego that may have known him when he lived here.
He clearly was not a JW for some time, as a gay man. I am sure more details will come out.
this doesn't help or hurt anyones cause. Its just brutal and horrific. I watched the videos. I am not sure why. They are incomprehensible. He even seems to linger after showing them the gun and them not noticing......almost as if he is getting even angrier.
Just terrible.
Well don't keep us on the edge of our seats you jerk. :)
how does (or did) feel to be a jw, gay, and female?.
Actually DD, if you were a lesbian trapped in a mans body you would be a transgender male identifying as a gay female.
Take that!
Bashful, I am absolutely sure that there are. There are also many gay men as well.
i've finally got round to joining the site (after over 2 years lurking!
i was born into jws, pioneered for 10 years (met my husband at pioneer school).
had health issues that saw me catapulted away from 'the centre of the cong' and wow what a different place that was!
Welcome to the ste and thanks for sharing that story. I am glad to hear you guys are doing wel, and not looking back. So many unique stories and circumstances here....but the constant is the fact that nobody can leave with dignity. they try to rob you of it at every corner.
Good for you guys for doing what you needed to mentally and emotionally.
May I ask what it was that woke your elder husband up?
I'm always curious about how the light goes on for people.